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T.U.L.I.P. - Lesson 3

Irresistable Grace and Total Depravity

Irresistable grace means we are brought to the place where grace gives us faith. Conditional talk from God to us should not be taken to mean he is dependent on us to meet the condition or that we should consider ourselves self-reliant in meeting the condition he has laid out. He intends to enable us to meet the condition so he can act. If grace were not irresistable, we would not incline to God because of our condition of total depravity. In summary, total depravity means that apart from any enabling grace from God, our hardness and rebellion against God is total. Everything we do in this rebellion is sin, our inability to submit to God or reform ourselves is total, and we are therefore totally deserving of eternal punishment. 

John Piper
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Irresistable Grace and Total Depravity

I. Irresistable Gace (2 Chronicles 30:6-12)

II. Total Depravity


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  • Romans 8:28-30 focuses on the idea that God works everything together for the good of those who are called according to his purpose. The Bible holds up Romans 8:28 with foreknowledge, predestination, calling, justification and glorification. The essence of idolatry is the entertainment of thoughts about God that are unworthy of him. We imagine things about God and act as if they are true. Verses like Ephesians 1:4 and Revelation 13:8 refer to God's plans that were in place before the foundation of the world.
  • Dr. Piper explains his assumptions about the authority of scripture, the importance of understanding and applying what it teaches and the role of the Holy Spirit in making it possible. The five points of Calvinism were first articulated in response to five objections that Arminians had to Calvin's theology in the 1600's.
  • Irresistable grace means we are brought to the place where grace gives us faith. Conditional talk from God to us should not be taken to mean he is dependent on us to meet the condition or that we should consider ourselves self-reliant in meeting the condition he has laid out. He intends to enable us to meet the condition so he can act. If grace were not irresistable, we would not incline to God because of our condition of total depravity. In summary, total depravity means that apart from any enabling grace from God, our hardness and rebellion against God is total. Everything we do in this rebellion is sin, our inability to submit to God or reform ourselves is total, and we are therefore totally deserving of eternal punishment.
  • "Total" depravity doesn't mean you are as bad as you can be. The point of unconditional election is that there are no conditions we must meet to be among the elect. God chooses individuals he will bring to faith. The Arminian position is that God chooses a corporate entity, so that it is not that individuals are in the church because they are elect, but that they are elect because they are in the church. We don't belong to God because we come to Jesus, we come to Jesus because we belong to God.
  • We are unable to believe in Christ but we are accountable for doing so. In election, God had a design in mind when he chose the foolish, the weak and the low to populate his church so that no human could boast in his presence and so we would praise and exalt God.
  • Is God's election based on his foreknowledge of your faith, or is faith the effect of your election? (see Romans 8:28-30) Faith is the effect because all the called, believe. Romans 9:1-23 is an argument for the justice of unconditional election. The heart of the righteousness of God is his unswerving allegiance to always uphold his glory.
  • God's aim was the revelation of the riches of his glory for the vessels of mercy prepared beforehand for glory. The apex of that glory is the glory of grace. The supreme demonstration of that grace was the death of Jesus. The atonement is the work of God in Christ, by his obedience and death, by which he cancelled the debt of our sin, appeased his holy wrath against us, and won for us all the benefits of salvation.
  • Even though believers are accepted in His Beloved, effectually called and sanctified by His Spirit, and slavery to sin is broken, sinful desires progressively weakened by the power of a superior satisfaction in the glory of Christ, yet there remain remnants of corruption in every heart that give rise to irreconcilable war and call for vigilance in the lifelong fight of faith. All who are justified will win this fight.
  • It's important to determine theological truths by basing your ideas on scriptural texts, not just logic. These scriptural truths can encourage us to live our lives in relationship to God, worship him, tell others about him and look forward to his kingdom being realized on earth.

God is sovereign and has planned everything about our salvation from before the foundation of the world. Romans 8:28-30 focuses on the idea that God works everything together for the good of those who are called according to his purpose.

We are thankful for John Piper's willingness to share these lectures with us. Copyright 2014 by Desiring God Ministries. Used with Permission. For more information, please visit www.DesiringGod.org.

Dr. John Piper
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Irresistable Grace and Total Depravity
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[00:00:00] The following message is by Pastor John Piper. More information from Desiring God is available at www.DesiringGod.org.  Father and him. We have much bigger things to think about than whether our voice is good enough for anything of that small nature. When I think about you, we want to think about the terrible condition that we're in as fallen and depraved human beings in rebellion against our maker, with hearts that by nature are not inclined to you, which even as regenerate people, grieves us deeply when the remaining corruption tends to creep up and contaminate the good work that you're doing in in our lives. We are sorry. So we begin on a note of contrition. The sacrifice acceptable to God is a a broken spirit, a broken and contrite heart of God you will not despise. And so we come broken, contrite, needy, realizing that we are desperately dependent on you for grace. Grace to understand these things. Grace to experience these things. Grace to teach and live out these things. Grace to make you look great in these things. So on you, we leave all of that. And now come be our our teacher. Give us hearts that are spiritually in harmony with the truth of text that we will look at so that when we look at them, there doesn't rise up resistance in our hearts, but rather a a cohering deep down in our hearts with what is really there in the text and so shape us by those texts we pray. Jesus name Amen. I was praying. A phrase came to my mind from a YouTube video that I watched the other day from a a black church led by elder D.J. Ward that I have preached at before.

[00:02:38] And he's a reformed guy. And there's just this little video clip called A Grace Case. And it's him talking about his desperate need for grace and how he was brought to Christ. And then he just repeated several times on the Grace case, I'm a grace case. And that's the way we should feel. We should feel like we are who we are by the grace of God, so that he gets all the glory and the biblical verse that comes closest, I suppose, to saying that is First Corinthians 1510. By the grace of God, I am what I am, and His grace toward me was not in vain. But I worked harder than any of them. Nevertheless, it was not I but the grace of God that was with me. So even when Paul realizes he has expended himself to the max, he steps back from that expenditure of energy and says, nevertheless, it was not I but the grace of God. So there's that. There's the mystery that we will bump into again and again. We do expend ourselves, we do exert our wills, we do make choices, we do work hard. But then when we're done, whether we can understand it fully or not, we lay it down and we say by the grace of God, I worked by the grace of God, I chose. And so we are a grace case. And that means Jesus will get all the glory. We will be praising the glory of His grace forever and ever. We will never get to the bottom of the mysteries of the grace of God. It's a great topic, and it occurred to me last time as I was reflecting on what we covered and what I left out, that there is one piece of the lesson on irresistible grace that I did not want to leave out, that I did leave out.

[00:05:03] And so I'm going to go back and pick up a text from the first argument. And there were six arguments for irresistible grace. And the first one was the argument that faith is a gift or repentance is a gift. So we don't get nudged merely as in the Armenian understanding that grace brings us to a point and then leaves us to provide the decisive impulse to finish it. We are brought to the place where grace gives us faith, gives us repentance. Now, one of the obstacles to believing that is that as you read the Bible faithfully, which you should do, the whole Bible beginning to end, is that all over the Bible you run into God speaking to humans in conditional language. If you do this, I will do this. If you do this, I will do this. If you do this, I will do this. Which, on the face of it, inclines us to think, Well, God is telling us what we have to do, and then waiting to see if we'll do it, to which he then, if we do it, will respond with the appropriate thing. And when we see that, we're we're inclined to. Well, it's not. It's not. It doesn't seem to work then to say that God is irresistibly bringing us to where we need to be, because he's telling us if we will go to a certain place, then he will bring us to where we need to be. So what I want to do is go back and pick up a text from that first argument on irresistible grace, namely the one in Second Chronicles. This is going to seem really strange, and I didn't see this text until, well, I suppose in the first 20 or 25 years of my reflection on these things.

[00:07:22] But few years ago on one of my treks through the Bible, which I try to get through every year, I was reading this passage and it hit me that this is, by way of illustration, extremely helpful for seeing how conditional talk from God to us should not be taken to mean He is depending on us to meet the condition, or that we should consider ourselves as self-reliant in meeting the condition that he just laid out, but that in fact, it may be that when God says, If you do this, I will do this. He intends to enable us to do that so that he can do this. And once you see that in several places, then you are relieved of the burden to take all those conditional places that you read about in the Bible and say, Oh, we're being left to ourselves there to meet the conditions. So there really is no such thing as irresistible grace. You don't have to make that conclusion once you see a few texts like this. So let's look at this one. It's second Chronicles, 34 verses 6 to 12, and I'm going to read the whole thing to point out the conditionality language that God is using through Hezekiah's call Hezekiah is calling for repentance. He said he's going to send messengers throughout the land with a summons for repentance. So here we read in verse six O Sons of Israel return to the Lord, the Lord God of Abraham, Isaac and Israel, that He may return to those of you who escaped and are left from the hand of the Kings of Assyria. So no notice. That's what God intends or wants to do. And it looks like he's saying you return so that I may return your return, so that God may return to you.

[00:09:52] So that's conditional. So if you return to me, I'll return to you. My you find that a dozen times in the Bible that you come to me and I'll come to you drawing you to God, and He'll draw near to you, things like that. Now, do not stiffen your neck like your father's, but yield to the Lord and enter his sanctuary which he has consecrated forever and serve the Lord your God so that his burning anger may turn away from you. So don't stiffen your neck. Don't be resistant. He's telling them to stop being resistant. You stop being resisted. He's telling them to yield. So what you got to do? Do this. Don't stiffen yield. Enter sanctuary. And the result will be so that his burning anger may turn away from you. So just. Just think how an Armenian would use this against a Calvinist. Right off the bat, they would say, See, you have to do this. And then his anger will turn away. So clearly his anger doesn't turn away. First help you and then you respond. It's you is gone. And then he turns his anger away. And that is you find is all over the Bible. Talk like this for if you return to the Lord, your brothers, your sons will find compassion. Before those who led them captive and will return to this land for the Lord. Your God is gracious and compassionate and will not turn his face away from you if you return to him. So the couriers passed from city to city through the country of Ephrem, the militia, as far as Zebulon. But here's the response they get. They left them to score, to send the couriers out with this message of if you return, God will bring these blessings.

[00:12:23] And they laughed them to scorn and they mocked them. Nevertheless, some men from Ashur, Manasa and Zebulon humbled themselves and came to Jerusalem. The hand of God was also on Judah to give them one heart to do what the King and the princes commanded by the Word of the Lord. And when I got to verse 12, you know, having read this and just I'm reading along, I'm circling all the ifs, and so that's showing the structure of the conditionality of the of the language God is using toward me. I must do this and he'll do this. And when I get diverse 12, I say, Oh, look at that changes everything. It just changes everything. The hand of God was on Judah to give them one heart. So the people here, they laughed and to scorn. Nevertheless, men from Asher and Vanessa and Zebulon, they didn't laugh them to scorn. They humbled themselves, They responded appropriately. And they came to Jerusalem. They did what they were told to do. And then, he adds, He doesn't say why. It just says they did it. So if you stopped right there, you say, We'll see. They've got sovereign, decisive, ultimate, self-determining, freewill. And they did what they were told to do. No, God will respond and do what he promised to do. But then verse 12 says, The hand of God was also know. Check this out in the Hebrew. I want to make sure these words are actually they're not overinterpreting these words also on Judah. So not only Asher Manasa, Zebulon, but also Judah. And it's the word also that clues me in to what's going to be said about why the Judah folks responded the way they did is also true of why Manassas, Zebulon and Asher responded the way they did.

[00:14:54] The hand of God was also on Judah to give them one heart to do what the King and the princes commanded by the Word of the Lord. So Judah responded positively for the call to repentance because God gave them a heart to do it. And all of the other responses of Manassas, Zebulon and Asher were also owing to that same cause. So here's the conclusion The condition stands. You don't go back and read and say, Oh, there were no conditions. The conditions are real. Return to the Lord God of Abraham, that he may return to you. Don't stiffen your neck. Yield to the Lord that his burning anger may turn away. But now we know from verse 12, you must not infer from that conditionality that God is folding his arms, standing back and waiting for us unaided to fulfill the condition. That's not what's going on in this text, Not in any text, I would argue. I mean, what if this text had stopped right there? Verse 11. And I didn't get any help at all in seeing this. That's the case in many texts. Many texts do not provide. Verse 12, they just say, Do this and God will do this. So I'm saying that the structure of thinking in the Bible is such that you should never infer from the Bible that when a condition is given to man, that he do a thing in order for God to do another thing. You jump to the conclusion that He leaves us to ourselves in fulfilling the condition that he just gave us. Because this says he doesn't leave us to ourselves. He did the work in Judah. He did the work in Judah that needed to be done in order for him to respond.

[00:17:34] Give you a just the most common example you think of is the whole I stand at the door and knock. Whoever opened the door, I will come in to him, up with him and he with me. Revelation 320. The issue here is not whether that's being addressed to Christians or non-Christians. It's really being addressed to Christians. But the point is the principle of if God says that to an unbeliever, behold, I says the door knock, if you will open your heart, I will come in. That's a conditional statement just like this. If you return to him, he will come to you. Should you conclude from that that Christ is only should be only pictured as outside the door knocking. That's all. Don't have any other picture in your mind beside that. And I would say on the basis of dozens and dozens of other texts. No, we shouldn't. And there are different ways you could think about it. One is the Holy Spirit simply enters by the chimney or window or just osmosis through the wall. And he then there are different ways you can say it now. You can say it that he just pulls the latch from the inside. Or you could say he inclines your heart to pull the latch from the inside. And Jesus walks in and he he is actually responding to your choice. But there has been another factor brought into the situation that inclines you to open the door from the inside. The way we are saved involves language that is conditional and prevention or preemptive. If you come to me, I will save you. Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ and you will be saved. The Bible is replete with summons for us to make choices in response to God.

[00:19:47] But I'm pointing out here, don't ever infer from those summons to make choices to which God will then respond. Don't ever infer from those that God leaves you to yourself with no decisive help in providing the response that He requires you to give. You remember Saint Augustine, who wrestled until he was, what, 32 with a life of lechery, had a concubine, had a at a marriage. His mother, Monica, brokenhearted, praying for him, continually sitting in a garden in Italy. Here's a little child singing Take up and read. He flops. Open his Bible. Turns to Romans 13 by fortuitous divine circumstance. And and he saved. And he spends the rest of his life writing about sovereign Greece. In fact, the sovereign joy of sovereign grace. And he says things like command, what you will and grit what you command. And he knew from his own bondage to sexual sin for those 16 years, made 16 to 32, unable to break free. Wanting to break free. Thinking he did and couldn't, that God broke it. And so command what you will grant what you command is like this. This is command. But you will return. Yield. Don't stiffen. Return. Turn away. Return. Command. What? You will. But. Oh, God. Grant. What You command. Give them one heart to do it. So when I'm preaching here on Saturday or Sunday, I'll look people right in the eye and I will say, Lay down the arms of rebellion. Stop resisting the Holy Spirit. Yield to God. Receive the Gospel. Embrace Christ. Those are all imperatives delivered straight to their will for which they are accountable to respond. And most of the people sitting out there, no, I don't think they're capable of that on their own. And I'm I believe that the Holy Spirit will take my words and the whole situation and make them words of life so that in ways they can understand, there will be responses of, yes, I will do that.

[00:22:48] And then after the yes, they will say, I'm a great case. I'm a great case. Well enough, perhaps on picking up what I left out because I found that text so helpful in my own understanding of how irresistible grace is to be understood. Lesson on total depravity. In order to understand, I think, how serious our condition is behind the need for irresistible grace. So now I've just talked about irresistible grace, and we're moving behind it to the condition that makes it necessary. If Grace were not irresistible, we would not inclined to God, but because of our condition. What's the condition? And the tea in Tulip is total depravity. And I want to wrestle with you concerning what the total means, because it could be taken to mean things that it doesn't mean. And I have five meanings that it has, but I'm setting the stage first by drawing your attention to the fact that we should see our depravity in relation in relation to God. And that's important. First Corinthians 1031 Whether then you eat or drink or whatever you do, do all to the glory of God. Sometimes we define sin for ourselves in such a way that it doesn't feel as pervasive. But if this is if this is the command over all of our lives, how are you doing? Everything from the smallest thing of eating to the largest thing you can imagine doing. You do it in such a way as to make God look glorious in it, and that's to the glory of God means. And I look at that and I think, Oh, my life is just so weak. Nice, gentle, self excusing word. So the question of our shortfall is not. Do you have a list of things you're supposed to do when you don't do it, but rather, do you believe that you're called to live every moment of your life, whether you're eating or drinking or anything at all, and do it with this great glorious motive, intention and effect.

[00:26:39] Now, keeping that in mind, here's the old favorite verse for defining our sinfulness. So I learned as I was growing up that in sharing the gospel, one of the pieces that needs to be shared is the need piece. People will embrace the gospel if they don't know they have a need for the gospel. And so you look for a nice, crisp, clear, biblical word concerning all of our needs. And this is the one that's short, pithy, clear. All have sinned and fall short of the glory of God. And so I learned that growing up. But I almost never in my growing up years focused on this part. This this is what sealed the deal. You know, if you're talking to somebody about their need for a savior, then it's the all here that that they need to grasp. So I are in the oil and therefore I have sinned and therefore the wages of sin is death. And therefore, Jesus Christ came into the world to save sinners. And therefore, you need a savior and and you move in that way. But we need to reflect on what this is. And it's this sin, by its nature, is a falling short of the glory of God. What does that mean? Fall short of the glory of God? The best Romans explanation of 323 is 123 123 talks about they exchanged the glory of God for images four footed beasts, animals, reptiles. They became foolish in their thinking and their senseless minds were darkened in thinking themselves to be wise. They became fools and exchanged the glory of God for substitutes. So that exchange is behind. I think this sin is a and falls short. Here is the word used to know what it means. Lack, lack the glory of God.

[00:29:28] What does lack the glory of God? Lacking the glory of God doesn't mean you aren't God and therefore you're at fault. You should be as glorious as God is. No, no, no, no. I think lacking the glory of God is what you do. If you exchange it, if you have something and then you exchange it for something else, you lack it, it's there. And this is here instead. And we've all we've all done it. And that's the essence of what sin is. We are offered God himself in all of the full range of His perfections and glories, as our treasure is the thing we admire most and delight in most and are satisfied most and we trade it for you, name it. Just test your own heart's affections that the heart is a desire factory. It produces all kinds of alternative desires to to God, desire for computer things, desire for sex, desire for success in the company, desire for health, desire for long life, desire for latest car, desire to look beautiful, desire to lose weight, desire to eat just all kinds of things that this heart is just in this desire factory. And when you ask where does God in His glory fit? He's hardly even there. He's not there for the fallen on regenerate human being. His glory is simply not a treasure. Other things are a treasure. And so sin has to be understood in order to feel the force of it. Not, as you know, your mama said, Don't go out in the street. You went out in the street to get a spanking. That's a sin. Or Bible says, Don't lie. You told a lie. Hey, that's a sin that that view of here's my list of don'ts, here's my sometimes breaking them.

[00:31:54] You don't ever feel the weight of sin when you do it by the list method. You have to bring God into the picture, the majesty of God and the greatness of God and the pervasive demand of seeing and savoring His glory that we don't do so. All have sinned. They lack the glory of God. Or remember, this verse just knocked me off my rocker back in seminary. Romans 1423 He who doubts is condemned if he eats because his eating is not from faith. Whatever is not from faith is sin. What is in anything? The best things in the worst things doesn't matter whether they're in the list or not. Anything that is not from faith is said. In other words, if you're not depending on God to teach you enable you empower you to do a thing so that He gets the glory you sinning first. 411 says that him who serves serve in the strength that God supplies, so that in everything God may get the glory. From here, the dynamic there of how it works. Call upon me in the day of trouble and I will deliver you and you will glorify me. So the deliverer gets the glory or the giver gets the glory first. Peter 411. So everything that we do should be done in Reliance. Upon a redeemer to forgive us and and empowered to enable us so that when it is done, the Redeemer and the empower get the glory. Everything that's not done that way since changing a diaper would be sin Billy Hospital would be sin. Planning a church would be sin. Having sex with your wife would be sin. Drinking glass of cool water at the end of a race would be sin. And when you stop to think about this, it means that this world is simply drowning in a sea of sin.

[00:34:49] It's all unbelievers do is said. That's all they do. I used to say that two classes that I taught and the students would absolutely go ballistic. It just they were so far. I mean, we have grown up in a culture that is so non God centered that the thought that all unbelievers do is sin is off the charts unacceptable to evangelicals. And to me it is so obvious. Of course, you have to be careful. There are ways to say that it's a good thing for an unbeliever to build a hospital rather than to commit mass murder. Hitler and Mother Teresa are not in the same category. I don't know about Mother Teresa's personal face. It's not the best example. But you know what I'm getting at. If I ask my son Bernard, to say when he was home was the last son who was home. They're all married now for the boys have their own kids, and they're learning these things firsthand. I want you to wash the car if you want to use it tonight to go to the basketball game. Yes. You know, get of the car. Good ball game tonight. Yes, they sure do. Watch it for me before you go. I kept it clean for tomorrow and it gets really better shape. They didn't set that in schedule and he doesn't want to do it. And I said, well, Barnabas, I would be picky, but that's that's the requirement. So wash the car and ensure you have it tonight. And he walks out of the room fuming at me. I'm his father right now. That fuming at me is not a good thing. He should be willingly submissive, obey his dad, be thankful that he can use the car, wash it, and he storms out as though he's not going to do what I say.

[00:37:30] And then I notice an hour or two later, he's out in the driveway and every everything in his body is exuding. I don't want to be doing this. And I'm angry at my dad for doing this. He's doing what I told him to do. How how how does that make me feel? Is he obeying me? In the raw external sense, but not in the heart sense. That makes any difference to me at all. He is being totally governed by principles different than his love for me. And that's the way unbelievers build hospitals. It is a good thing that hospitals get built and it's a good thing that unbelievers build them. AIDS crisis centers, food for the hungry and endless kinds of things that are right to happen in the raw externals since God wants compassion to abound in the world. But the attitude, if you actually boil it down to God issues, which are the ones that count. They're oblivious to God. They're not relying upon God. They don't care about God. They're blackballing God. They're not trusting God. They're giving him zero attention of their time. And so they're like me watching my son. I mean, God is like me watching my son wash the car. Well, the car will be cleaned tomorrow, and that's my will for my Sunday driving. But my son is in rebellion. That's amazing. So you just try to feel how sinful this world is. It if you feel it, it will change the way you articulate the problem of evil and blessing in the world. God never treats anybody unjustly. When there's a hurricane or a tsunami or an earthquake or a tornado or a random shooting. Nobody who gets taken out in one of those events is ever being treated wrongly by God.

[00:40:33] We're always treated better than we deserve. Always. The amazing thing is not that any of us right now are sick in this room. The amazing thing is that any of us are alive in this room and surviving from moment to moment in view of how corrupt our hearts are. Was a volleyball cam who tells the story. Getting into an argument on the problem of evil with a student on a campus. And the student was in his face about how God had treated him or his failures campus the way he thought he should and vote. He stopped him, he said. The main question you need to answer is why God didn't kill you and your sleepless night. Why you woke up this morning. You take that totally for granted. Like I deserve that. Every morning I wake up. I don't deserve to wake up. I'm just any health. I don't deserve a marriage that has lasted and is happy. But it isn't. You don't feel these things until the weight of of depravity lands on you. Another illustration of making sure God is in the picture when we talk about depravity. James 210 to 11. Whoever keeps the whole law yet stumbles in one point he has become guilty of all. Amazing. You stumble in one point of the law, you're guilty of having disobeyed the whole law. That's just I mean, almost anybody would say that's just off the charts exaggerated. I mean. Just please. That means everybody is going to be executed for minor traffic violations. So what's he going to say to explain that? And here's his his ground, his explanation for he who said do not commit adultery, also said do not commit murder. That's his answer. So you see what he does.

[00:43:32] He says, the reason I'm talking like this, the reason I'm saying that one infraction of the law makes you guilty of the whole law is because he he said that, which means on offense against the living infinite God, it's over. Just one. It's just over. There is something so cataclysmic in moral significance about a creature lifting up its will against its creator. Infinitely perfect, infinitely glorious, infinitely holy Creator. And saying no, that just ended that. That is so huge. It covers everything. His his guilt is universal because he's the same God who says one and the other is the issue. The argument for why this holds is that he who said the one said the other and you're opposing him. It's not that different commandments are of different significance. Rather, he's of infinite significance. And you've just resisted him. And that's an infinite offense. So those several passages give you the flavor of why I think depravity is serious, namely because it has to do with God. Thank you for listening to this message by John Piper, Pastor for preaching at Bethlehem Baptist Church in Minneapolis, Minnesota. Feel free to make copies of this message to give to others, but please do not charge for those copies or alter the content in any way without permission. We invite you to visit desiring God online at w WW dot desiring God dot org. There you'll find hundreds of sermons, articles, radio broadcasts and much more all available to you at no charge. Our online store carries all of Pastor John's books, audio and video resources. You can also stay up to date on what's new at Desiring God. Again, our website is w WW dot desiring God dot org. Or call us toll free at 1888346 4700.

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