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Romans - Lesson 47

Class discussion on Romans 11:11-32

In this lesson, you will gain a deeper understanding of the importance of our Jewish roots within the Christian faith. Through an analysis of Romans 11:11-32, you will discover the significance of being grafted into the spiritual lineage of Judaism and recognizing the foundational role it plays in our spiritual heritage. The discussion dives into the challenges of interpreting certain verses and the implications for preaching, including addressing the present state of Israel and its broader political context. Additionally, the lesson explores the delicate balance between proclaiming the exclusivity of Christ and promoting love and understanding towards all people. Moreover, it contemplates the extent of God's grace and the hope it offers for redemption, emphasizing the power of faith exemplified by figures like Abraham. 

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Class discussion on Romans 11:11-32

Discussion on Romans 11:11-32

A. Let’s Not Forget Our Jewish Roots

B. It isn’t Anti-Semitic to Preach Christ to the Jews

C. God’s Powerful Grace Can Reach Anybody


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  • This lesson offers a deep dive into Paul's Letter to the Romans, revealing its pastoral aims, Paul's intentions to visit Spain, Jerusalem, and Rome, and its relevance to early Christian dynamics and theological inquiries about the Law in Christ's time.
  • This lesson offers a fresh view of Paul's theology, focusing on Romans. It emphasizes the first-century context, highlighting Gentile inclusion and unity in Christ, challenging traditional views. Gain insights into Paul's message and its relevance today.
  • Explore the book of Romans for modern faith conflicts: balance tradition with contemporary practices, learn from history, and grasp Paul's ministry and Gospel's complexities.
  • Follow along with Dr. Moo as he begins a thorough review of Romans 1:2-5. You will learn how Paul emphasizes Jesus' earthly life, resurrection, and his appointment as the Son of God in power. This lesson examines the interconnectedness of faith and obedience, underscoring that while faith initiates salvation, genuine faith inherently entails obedience to Christ as Lord, maintaining a balanced Christian life.
  • By delving into Romans 1:16-17, you'll understand the Gospel extends beyond individual salvation, encompassing God's reign over creation and His establishment of justice. The Gospel challenges worldly powers, offering hope and transformation to all who embrace it.
  • Listen along as the class discusses questions and answers revolving around Romans 1:16-17.
  • In Romans 1:18-28, you learn that all people are held accountable by God, having knowledge of Him through natural revelation but some turn away. This passage highlights the manifestation of God's wrath against sin, the exchange of truth for falsehoods, and the absence of excuses for humanity's actions, ultimately emphasizing God's fair judgment.
  • Listen in as the class and Dr. Moo discuss aspects of Romans 1:18-28.
  • The lesson discusses Romans 2:1-11, it highlights the use of the diatribe device and the transition from focusing on Gentiles to Jews. It underscores the Jewish belief in their special status and their potential misunderstanding of God's judgment. The lesson reviews the focus of the text on key themes such as judgment, righteousness, and the relationship between faith and good deeds.
  • In this lesson, you'll review the significance of the Law, notably the Law of Moses, in God's judgment. Paul stresses that mere knowledge of the Law isn't sufficient for righteousness; obedience is key. The primary message is that salvation ultimately relies on God's grace and the Gospel of Jesus Christ, as human efforts and consciences alone cannot secure salvation. This lesson highlights the importance of understanding these concepts in interactions with people of different religious beliefs.
  • The key takeaway in this lesson is that while being a Jew comes with a great heritage, it doesn't guarantee salvation. Obedience to God's law is crucial, and reliance on religious heritage or rituals won't save you. The lesson emphasizes the universal human condition of being under the power of sin, and people cannot be declared righteous in God’s sight by observing the Law or by the works of the Law. Only through faith in Christ are we made righteous.
  • This lesson explores the New Perspective on Paul, emphasizing that the Law was for Jewish covenant status, not just salvation. It promotes a holistic faith view, balancing vertical and horizontal aspects, Spirit-led obedience, and 1st-century Judaism diversity, enriching Pauline teachings in the church.
  • In exploring Romans 3:21-26, you'll gain insights into the relationship between righteousness, faith, and salvation. Paul highlights God's righteousness, which is accessible to all through faith in Jesus Christ. By weaving together themes of righteousness, faith, and inclusivity, Paul challenges conventional Jewish and Gentile perspectives, emphasizing the continuity of God's salvation plan while underscoring the centrality of faith in Christ for all believers.
  • In this lesson, you will gain insights into the potential challenge in translating Romans 3:23-24, particularly the term "all" and its connection to the debate on universalism in evangelicalism. Dr. Moo stresses the importance of coherence in biblical interpretation and explores the themes of God's righteousness, faith, and grace in justification. The lesson reviews the cultural background of redemption, drawing parallels with the Greco-Roman slave market and emphasizing the need to understand both the problem of sin and the Gospel solution.
  • Embarking on this lesson, you'll gain insight into the historical development and contemporary challenges surrounding the doctrine of justification. Through exploring classic Reformation principles and contemporary reassessments, you'll understand the tensions between Protestant and Roman Catholic perspectives, particularly regarding the infusion of righteousness and the role of grace.
  • The lesson explores the intricate connection between faith and works, justification, and sanctification in contemporary theological discourse. It delineates divergent views on justification, with scholars like Piper advocating for the preservation of biblical distinctions amidst modern theological trends. The lesson examines key questions regarding the meaning, basis, time, and means of justification.
  • Students in Dr. Moo's class ask multiple questions about justification.
  • By studying Romans 3:27-4:25, you gain insight into Paul's theology, where faith, exemplified by Abraham's righteousness, transcends works and ethnicity, emphasizing the universal scope of salvation through Christ.
  • Hear the questions the students ask regarding Romans 3:27–4:25. And discover Dr. Moo's answers to the questions posed.
  • In Romans 5 – 8, you gain insights into profound theological concepts like justification, identity in Christ, and the tension between present reality and future hope, guiding you to embrace your changed identity and hope for future transformation amidst life's trials.
  • Students as deep questions about Romans 5-8. Hear what Dr. Moo presents as answers to their questions.
  • Through Romans 5:1-11, you'll review the contrast between the Old and New Realms, understanding the essence of living in grace, finding hope amid suffering, and experiencing the assurance of eternal security rooted in Christ's sacrifice and God's love poured into believers' hearts by the Holy Spirit.
  • In Romans 5:12-21, Paul contrasts Adam's sin with Christ's redemptive grace, emphasizing humanity's hope and victory over death through union with Christ, while various interpretations of original sin underscore the universal need for redemption and Christ's pivotal role in restoring humanity to God.
  • Listen to the thorough questions the students ask regarding Romans 5:12-21.
  • The students ask excellent questions of Dr. Moo in this insightful discussion on Romans 6:1-14.
  • Through this lesson, you will gain a deeper understanding of the theological implications of Christ's death and resurrection as explained in Romans 6. You will explore different interpretations of Paul's language regarding the old self and the new self, considering the implications for the Christian life. Ultimately, you will be challenged to recognize your identity in Christ and to actively live according to that identity, rejecting the slavery of sin and embracing servitude to God.
  • Hear the questions the students ask of Dr. Moo regarding Romans 6:1-23.
  • In diving into Romans 7, you'll explore the Law's role in Christian life. Paul's discourse clarifies the distinction between law and gospel, emphasizing the Torah's significance in understanding divine commandments.
  • Class discussion on Romans 7:1-6
  • In Romans 7:7-12, Paul explores the Law's role in intensifying sin and contrasts it with Christ's liberation. His narrative prompts reflection on individual experience and collective identity, enriching understanding of Christian faith.
  • The class discusses the previous lesson on Romans 7:7-12.
  • This lesson covers interpretations of Romans 7:13-25; whether Paul's description is of pre- or post-conversion struggle with the Law.
  • In Romans 8:1-22, discover the Spirit's transformative power over sin, leading to a life free from condemnation, intimacy with God, and anticipation of future glory amid present sufferings.
  • Explore the theological insights on environmental stewardship, emphasizing Christian responsibility in light of Romans 8:19-22.
  • Gain insights into Romans 8:23-27, understanding destined glory despite present suffering. The Spirit intercedes, bridging current and promised futures, offering assurance amid weakness.
  • Romans 8:28 offers profound insights into the nature of God's providence and the believer's journey of faith. Beyond its surface meaning, the verse challenges misconceptions about 'good' and underscores the transformative power of God's grace. It invites believers to trust in God's unfailing love amidst life's trials, anchoring their hope in the assurance of His sovereign care and redemptive purposes.
  • Romans 9:1-5 highlights Paul's profound concern for Israel's salvation and the theological complexities surrounding God's promises. Reviewing salvation history, you'll learn that God's offer of salvation for both Jew and Gentile, fits within the Old Testament narrative.
  • Paul discusses Israel's role in God's plan, emphasizing grace over race. He illustrates divine choices and sovereignty, sparking debates on salvation.
  • Discover diverse views on election, Israel's struggle with faith, and the significance of overcoming theological narrowness in Romans 9:30-10:21. Gain insights into law versus faith in attaining righteousness and the importance of engaging deeply with Scripture for a comprehensive understanding.
  • Gain insights into faith versus works, Christ as the culmination of the Law, and the inclusivity of righteousness through Him. Embrace unity in Christ, transcending cultural divisions, and embodying love and holiness.
  • Gain insight into contrasting righteousness by law vs. faith in Romans 10:5-13. Accessibility of salvation through Christ bridges Old and New Testament teachings, emphasizing unity and continuity.
  • Gain insights into Romans 10:14-21, emphasizing faith, preaching, and Israel's reception of the message. Dr. Moo highlights Paul's use of Old Testament quotes and God's ongoing relationship with Israel, revealing the significance of faith and salvation.
  • Gain insight into Romans 11:11-15. Paul discusses Jewish rejection, Gentile salvation, and Jewish inclusion, aiming to provoke Jewish envy. The phrase "life from the dead" hints at spiritual renewal or future resurrection.
  • Gain insights into the Olive Tree analogy in Romans 11:16-24. Understand humility, faithfulness, and the purpose of warning passages in Scripture.
  • Discover the mystery of Israel's salvation in Romans 11:25-32. Paul reveals unity of Jews and Gentiles, challenging arrogance and emphasizing God's inclusive love.
  • Gain deeper understanding of Christian-Jewish ties, navigate theological challenges, address Israel-Palestine tensions, and embrace God's inclusive grace.
  • Gain deep insights into Romans 12:1-2: True worship extends beyond rituals, urging sacrificial living and transformation in response to God's mercy.
  • In Romans 12:3-8, Paul stresses humility, unity, and diverse gifts within the body of Christ, urging faithful stewardship for the edification of the body of Christ.
  • Gain insights into love's complexity in Romans 12:9-21. Paul urges sincere affection, alludes to Jesus' teachings, and prompts contemplation on love and judgment.
  • Gain insights into balancing submission to authorities with obedience to God. Understand the context of Paul's exhortation to Roman Christians and the complexities of submission, emphasizing humility, unity, and love in the Christian life within God's sovereignty.

Dr. Douglas Moo, from Wheaton College Graduate School, offers an exegetical examination of the book of Romans. This course was recorded during a D.Min. seminar at the Carolina Graduate School of Divinity in May 2012.

Please note that the audio mp3 file numbers on downloaded files are two greater than each lecture number beginning with number 15.

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Class discussion on Romans 11:11-32  
Lesson Transcript

 

A. Let’s Not Forget Our Jewish Roots: 

In addition to the good points you all have made, to me there is also a point I might want to make to these largely Gentile congregations that most of us are preaching to - don’t forget your Jewish roots. You have been grafted into a tree and as Paul emphasizes here in the illustration in verses 17 and following, the only benefit spiritually that you are enjoying is because of the roots of that tree in very Jewish soil, God’s promises to the patriarchs and so on. And just move from that to talk about how often do you read your Old Testament and how much do you know about that stuff back there before Matthew? A lot of churches which I attend, two thirds of the Bible is Old Testament and three quarters of the preaching is on the New Testament. We all know there can be reasons for that sometimes, but I think there can be a tendency for Gentile congregations to forget entirely the Jewish roots of who we are spiritually. 

In preaching this text, it is going to be a challenge to figure out how many options do I give them, like in verse 26? How much detail do I go into? How do I do that knowing there are two or three good options that faithful interpreters of Scripture, from different famous key theologians in the history of the church have differed in how to take that verse? Granted the amount of time I have in a message, how much time do I spend looking at the three options? For me, that would be a challenge to figure out how to do that. 

The other matter that I would find to be something to question is to what degree in a sermon on this passage do I need to get into the broader implications of the present state of Israel? As a political issue this is an issue that divides Christians in terms of what we expect God to be doing in and for the State of Israel as a nation? Can I preach this passage without leaving a lot of questions in the minds of my people if I don’t say something about that? I would find that to be a challenge because if you say something briefly, you are probably going to raise more questions than you can answer, but to do it adequately, you would need to spend a certain amount of time on it. That might be a place where I would say, I know a lot of you have questions about how this cashes out in terms of the current situation of Israel and the Palestinians, the political issues – come back on Wednesday night and we’ll talk about that. Do that in a different setting perhaps because that would really take quite a bit of time to do adequately.

Student:  
I wonder too if we were looking forward to 15:27, if you were blessed by their spiritual things, you are obligated. I wonder if that is contributing to his future argument in addition to chapters 14 and 15?

Dr. Moo:  
It is interesting to see how all these parts of Romans start to make sense together. We talked about how Paul has in view this collection for the saints in Jerusalem, that is part of the context in which he is writing Romans. It is something on his mind; what does that involve? It involves Gentiles and Jews; it involves Gentiles giving to Jews and Paul says there it is because Jews have given to you spiritually. Paul has built this point here in Romans 11 already. So yes, there is a relationship there. 

What does this mean for our Gentile congregation? There are certain groups, Jewish Messianic groups especially that say that every church as a valid biblical church needs to make Jewish evangelism a priority. Paul says that it is to the Jew first and then to the Greek. A church that is not recognizing its obligations in terms of the Jewish part of the world is failing in its mandate to preach the Gospel as Paul wants it to be preached. I don’t agree with that personally as I think that is an over-reading of what Paul intends there. But it does raise for some people those kinds of issues.

Student:  
Just out of curiosity. I had an experience where we had a Jewish woman who came to the church who was a Christian, who hung out both at the synagogue and at our church. We just let her kind of float. I couldn’t understand why she wanted to do that, but then I did understand it because of the cultural situation. She was trying to make a point that she thought that they were still blessed by the covenant, that she was fortunate to know the Christ. It was kind of strange. 

Dr. Moo:  
You certainly get that variety of Jewish Christian. Reflecting on the situation of Paul in his day, there is evidence on the one hand that Paul kept going back to the synagogue in trying to preach Christ there. I think that is the key point that some of the Jewish Christian folks that I know kind of miss. Paul wanted to remain a Jew, but his passion for Christ, his understanding that God was doing the decisive thing in Christ made it imperative for him to talk about Jews within the Jewish context, and not just to be comfortable and blend in with the Jewish crowd. 

I think Paul’s pattern is one that I like to think is the pattern that is sort of mandated. Yes, we have to recognize that the New Testament says that people can remain in their Judaism in a certain sense, but only in a certain sense. Jesus and the implications of Jesus have to be fit into that. That is what practically makes it very difficult for Christians who are sincere about their faith, living it out and proclaiming it to others makes it very difficult to maintain any significant presence within the synagogue. Just as it was difficult for Paul as he kept getting thrown out.

Student:  
Passages like this though make me read literature differently; for instance, the Merchant of Venice and the attack on Shylock. You’re appalled by that, and yet, in the group I was discussing this with (it’s a philosopher’s group that meets occasionally), virtually 75% of them thought Shylock deserved death. It was amazing the anti-Semitism that was inherent, that nobody would fess up to it. Here I was defending Shylock vociferously and I got no sympathy. It is a shame in our culture. I would have a tendency to preach that, too, how anti-Semitic or at least how people overlook it, or don’t seem to care about it, no sympathy for the Jews, what they have gone through, who they are. It hurts me. That’s one thing that will get my dander up fast., disrespect to the Jews. 

 

B. It isn’t Anti-Semitic to Preach Christ to the Jews: 

I mentioned the anti-Semitism charge early on. The way that has been construed in a lot of the current political and some theological circles is that if you do not grant full authenticity to the Jewish faith, you are anti-Semitic. If you say to a Jew, you cannot be saved within your Judaism, Jesus is the only way, that is anti-Semitic. Tom Wright has a great response to that where he says that attitude of not confronting Jews with Jesus is the most anti-Semitic thing that you can do. You are out there proclaiming to all other groups in the world that you need to believe in Jesus to be saved and you are not going to do that to the Jews? You’re going to leave them in their sin? That is a fundamentally anti-Semitic thing. 

We have to try to find ways in which to emphasize our claim about exclusivity of Christ without allowing that to lapse into some of the unfortunate ways that can be taken by people. And we need to be careful also in trying to avoid anti-Semitism to be so favorable toward the current nation of Israel that we fail to love the Palestinians, brothers and sisters who are Arab who struggle in various ways. Obviously, this is not an easy situation. There is need for Christians to steer a very careful course there. 

Student:  
In preaching it, you wonder how far you go in preaching. In categories in terms of groups. There is a rejection here on the part of chosen. At the same time, is grace grace? How far in preaching do you take it? Say, for a homosexual, have they stumbled too far? Is grace grace? Even in preaching that you wonder how far you can go with that, making it relevant? 

Dr. Moo:  
For me, there is, as John puts it, a sin unto death; as Jesus puts it, the blasphemy against the Spirit that can’t be forgiven. Somehow there is this category; Hebrews 6 seems to talk about something like this. There is this category of an open-eyed blatant rejection of Christ that perhaps a person can’t come back from. But our ability to identify that for others when have they committed that sin, I think is very hard. 

 

C. God’s Powerful Grace Can Reach Anybody: 

So, while I want to keep that in my theological lexicon, it seems to me that the focus of the New Testament is to say God’s powerful grace can reach anybody. So, when Paul is talking about this hardening that has come to the Jews and how that is in a sense not permanent. God is still working to reverse that. Perhaps, the branches that are broken off can be grafted back in again. This is the place I want to focus; to tell people whatever sin they are involved in; they are not too far that God can’t get to them by His grace and bring them into His kingdom. 

Student:  
I think chapter 1 was in my mind – He gave them over. Since it is in the whole overall context of Romans, somebody might put that at a group – that God gave them over.

Dr. Moo:  
But did He give them over permanently? That’s where I think I would draw the line. Human beings choose sin and God in a sense, in His purposes, says, alright you have chosen it, I’m going to let you go that way. But that doesn’t mean that He is pushing them in that direction and sort of closing the door behind them. I don’t think that is what that text is saying. I think it is saying yes, that God is in a sense pushing them in that direction, and maybe one of His purposes in doing that is to say, you’ve chosen that sin and I’m going to put you into that sin and I hope it gets really bad because that is maybe what is going to wake you up ultimately as you see what the consequences are for what you have chosen for yourself. 

Student:  
I have seen this also - how pleased God must be when He finds somebody like Abraham who really believes Him, and forgets about his empirical knowledge and all the rest of it, and just puts his faith, his life into His hands. God must be pleased with that. 

Dr. Moo:  
Oh, yes. Romans 4 Abraham in hope believed against hope. I love that almost paradox. Against hope all the evidence of the world was against him, but in hope in the God who promised things to him, he still believed. That exactly captures in a sense the posture of faith that clings to the promise of God, whatever the evidence around us might be.